"...I, the LORD your God, am a jealous God, punishing the children for the sin of the fathers to the third and fourth generation of those who hate me..." [Deuteronomy 5:8-10]

Saturday, February 09, 2008

J P Holding Doesn't Get It


2008 hasn't started well for the Soldiers of the Lord. Geoff Simmons of the Discovery Institute ("NAMBLA") had his ass handed to him by PZ Myers, and even more fun, self-styled wanker-for-Christ and the least pleasant man in apologetics J P Holding found himself way out of his depth after picking on prickly academic Hector Avalos.

In both cases, even the Christian peanut gallery handed victory to the godless heathens... And both Simmons and Holding have been busy re-writing history with themselves as the winners.

Holding writes at his absurd Tektonics:

"These days I reserve my ammunition for those who might be considered the cream of the crop of the atheist world."
What a twat.

Which brings me to this video:



I'd never seen Holding's face before. I'd always envisaged him as a small chap with a Napoleon complex... But it seems he's as corpulant and as pudding-like as his bully-boy persona.

In this 30 second clip, Holding shows that his years of "study" and "ministry" devoted to convincing himself and the feeble minded that everything happened exactly like he learned in Sunday School has been a total waste of time. He shows himself that his entire life's work and religious vocation depend entirely on his ability to believe one set of fairy tales and disbelieve all others.

But hey. I'm sure he treats his dogs well.

Here's JohnLArmstrong answering Holding's question, in case anyone missed it:



Game, set and match.

PTET


Edit: Since Holding pretends his belief in the Resurrection is based on solid historical evidence, he deserves one of these...

Update: RDTWOT asks of this post, Why are anti-theists so hostile?

3 comments:

Mister DNA said...

J.P. Holding... there's a name I haven't heard in awhile. I guess I had successfully purged that assclown from my memory banks. He's definitely a douchebag.

btw, can you change the tag from "bpsdb.org" to "BPSDB"? I changed the criteria to (hopefully) stop the aggregator from picking up blogrolls and such...

Drew said...

Armstrong's response is very good...

The substitutionary atonement is an issue, was for me as well. So medieval. Too many Christians do not make a hard enough distinction between the relative frailty of their functionalist assumptions of a tradition with what they are actually proclaiming to be the immutable God. One actually becomes the other and tradition is reified. This is what leads to apologetics.

And apologetics, unlike Holding's "brick laying" is paradoxically following the blueprint for building the atheist house one brick at a time.

If people in general would admit the fragile nature of belief we would make so much more progress in human life...

PTET said...

Cheers Drew

You are a dream of a commentator. I am looking forward to us disagreeing on stuff : )

It's a real shame that so much of the god-atheism-debate is about building walls rather than taking them down.

But hey.