"...I, the LORD your God, am a jealous God, punishing the children for the sin of the fathers to the third and fourth generation of those who hate me..." [Deuteronomy 5:8-10]

Saturday, April 17, 2010

Wintery Knight dishonestly edits posts on his blog

Wintery Knight is a christian apologist. He argues that morality is irrational for atheism and that wives are under contract to have sex with their husbands. On his blog he claims his moderation policy is to give challengers the advantage. This is not true.

He edits comments he does not like to change their meaning. He doesn't let his readers know he has done this. He doesn't publish complaints about his edits. He bans visitors who complain about his actions.

He says he gets to make fun of visitors who don't follow his rules and his readers like it when he does - but if he doesn't let his readers know comments have been edited, how do they know he's making fun?

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Wednesday, April 14, 2010

Wintery Knight is a liar, a coward and a scoundrel

Guest Post By Contrararian. (More here).

Self-appointed "apologist" and christian warrior Wintery Knight has to be the most blatant example of a "liar for christ" that I have come across in my many years of blogging.

The author of a six-page treatise on how morality cannot exist without God has something seriously wrong with his own moral compass.

He seems to think it is ok for him to edit comments on his blog to change their meaning, put words into his commenter's mouths and avoid questions he can't answer.

Consider this comment I made on a thread discussing the Kalam Cosmological Argument:

contrararian says:
Your comment is awaiting moderation.
04/12/2010 at 4:03 PM
The only authority you cite is William Lane Craig, a man who (circular reasoning central) believes the Bible is the infallible word of God. Need I mention he is also not a cosmologist?
The argument fails because (a) we do not know that premise 2 is true; and (2) it is special pleading to insist that "god‚" requires no cause but that the universe must.
My "authorities" are albert einstein, stephen hawking, and the 90%+ of eary & life scientists who do not believe in "god"
The answer is that WE DO NOT KNOW what caused the universe. I don't. You don't. It is as simple as that.
Since that proposition is quite clearly true, it invalidates any traditional form of christianity. Q.E.D.

Rather than show his readers what I had written, Wintery Knight took "moderation" rights to new heights. He removed the bulk of my comments, added words I did not say, and without giving any indication that my post had been edited, he posted the following under my name as if this is what I had written:

The argument fails because (a) we do not know that premise 2 is true.
I DO NOT KNOW what caused the universe. Q.E.D.

He completely misleads his readers (and himself) about my argument. He gives no indication of any edits. He puts words into my mouth. Is this not bearing false witness? Is he not lying?

Here is my next comment:

contrararian says:
Your comment is awaiting moderation.
04/12/2010 at 4:59 PM
You deleted the bulk of my post. How amusing. Afraid, much?
I do not have to prove anything. You have tried to support the Kalem argument and you have failed.
Science cannot explain how the universe came into being. It is as simple as that. That leaves your premise 2 unproven – and worse, you cannot explain why if p2 is true, it should not also apply to your “god”.
I also pointed out that authorities in cosmology do not support your argument – but you deleted that along with the rest of my post.
Are you going to show my full post, or do I have to declare you a coward and a scoundrel? ;>

Wintery Knight edited that comment as well. The next comment as written was as follows:

contrararian says:
Your comment is awaiting moderation.
04/12/2010 at 5:11 PM
You do not consider that Albert Einstein & Stephen Hawking are authorities on Cosmology?
I have a prediction, Wintery Knight, that you will end up deleting either all my posts or all links to my blog from this thread.

Wintery Knight is the perfect example of why Fundamentalist Christianity* is false.

Its believers and defenders have to lie to defend it. They lie about what other people say. Blatantly, openly and repeatedly.

He has no shame. Why should he? After all, who is the real deceiver but he that denies what Wintery Knight tells us is god's word?

UPDATE: Click here for the latest on Wintery Knight's dishonesty.

[* Edited 18 April to add: "Fundamentalist". I have no issue with moderate religion of any stripe. Moderates do not have to lie about what others says to support their beliefs. By "fundamentalist", I mean the belief that a holy book is "inerrant" and "true". Such beliefs can only be supported by lying about what other people say. Don't agree? Then feel free to argue with me!]

Saturday, April 10, 2010